Tuesday, July 19, 2016

... on Erdogan probably not being THE Antichrist but someone else being so


And in original version of the draft, I got 3 consecutive figures 6 in the post-ID. I deleted it for sake of readers, but I am not hiding the fact.

Video:
Erdogan Survives Coup! Antichrist Can't Die!
thirdeaglebooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzFXl-l8b5k


My initial comment:
How do you tie Erdogan numerologically to Apocalypse 13:18? You can get ties for Putin (WLADIMIRA, V POUTINE), Bergoglio, Ben Rhodes (both all capitals, no space for Ben), for 666 value. You can get ties for Hitler, Silvia, Hovind for 616 value. And the 616 value depends on an upper case value of 456 which can by atbash inversion give 474, which will if rendered all lower case be 666. You also get 666 for C P Snow, for d bowie, for the cog, for COGGAYBEY - a Scanian pronunciation of KGB. And Putin can be tied to "the cog" via "cog gay Bey" = KGB, while Bergoglio can be tied to "the cog" by being Rotarian, notoriously so. As for d bowie, it's not the man's real name, but David Bowie was just an artist name. And in his art, he sang of "Ground control to major Tom", and you can tie Putin in no uncertain terms to space programs. I believe Tower of Babel was a precocious space program. If Putin furthers the space race or even just one sided space program, he might for that reason be reverting to the stupidity of Nimrod on the plain of Shinar, probably Göbekli Tepe. But perhaps you can tie Erdogan numerologically to 666? I can't.

For Putin, let's not forget VLADIMIRB - B as in "the second". A Vladimir Vladimirovich, unless his father was also Vladimir Vladimirovich, in which case it would be the third, is a Vladimir II in his family. Putin is also Vladimir II in post-Czarist Russia, after Lenin. Putin is also in a way Vlad II in the fight against Turkish Moslems - after the Roumanian Vlad Tepec.

WLADIMIRA
876677786
765837325

V POUTINE
838788776
620954389

VLADIMIRB
876677786
665837326

Details of counting:

8+7+6+6+7+7+7+8+6=620
7+6+5+8+3+7+3+2+5=046

8+3+8+7+8+8+7+7+6=620
6+2+0+9+5+4+3+8+9=046

8+7+6+6+7+7+7+8+6=620
6+6+5+8+3+7+3+2+6=046

Inserting in each case a 0 after the results in the tens row, a 0 before it in the units row.

And Vladimir Putin's father was NOT a Vladimir Vladimirovich, so he is Vladimir II, not III.

Here is what I get with Erdogan:

R 82
T 84 160 6
E 69 220 15
R 82 300 17
D 68 360 25
O 79 430 34
G 71 500 35
A 65 560 40
N 78 630 48.

RTERDOGAN is 678. NOT the number mentioned in Apocalypse 13:18.

Building on from RTERDOGAN?

Twice ". "

078
078
____
156
678
____
834

6*32 for lower case letters in Erdogan:

0192
0834
1026

Hmmm ... this IS a funny value. 1026 is also the value of: "Papa Franjo" Croatian for "Pope Francis". It is 666+360. One can read 360 as 360°. And thus 666+360 as beginning as Antichrist, turning away from it and going, not just 180° straight opposite, but actually full circle and coming back to it. What if o were replaced by ö, the real letter in his name?

1026
0079
0947
0246
1193

No, 1193 is not very suspicious to me - unless you have a tip. Also, I do not think the value of Papa Franjo would be sufficient without the confirmation in BERGOGLIO. As we speak of false Popes. Benedictus has a Greek transscription which numerologically (traditionally, Greek gematria) is 500+150+16. So, of all Benedicts apparently on the throne of St Peter - and usually really - "B16" would be sth to look out for. BUT, in Portuguese and ASCII Code this gets a confirmation. Check out PAPABENTO. No space, English alphabet going from A=65 to Z=90.

thirdeaglebooks
Where do you find any place in the Bible that authorizes gematria?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
+thirdeaglebooks
Apocalypse 13:18 very clearly speaks of gematria, and also tradition takes this place as referring to gematria.

thirdeaglebooks
Revelation 13:18 says nothing about assigning numbers to letters. 666 is the number of a man; it represents man (2) over God (3), 2/3=.666.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
  • 1) St Irenaeus, as reported by Eusebius, does say "the syllables of his name add up to that number" - and he had it from St Polycarp, who had it from St John, who had it from God;

  • 2) St Hippolytus goes out of his way to say not everyone who has 666 in his gematria is Antichrist - but never says Antichrist hasn't.

    He does specify some gematrias which he considers as especially suspect, among them TEITAN and LATEINOS.

    Silvia has both these in her full name.

    Putin has LATIN and IMIR - Ymir being one primal frost titan in Norse myth.

    Bergoglio has MAGOG instead of LATIN and GEBOR instead of Titan.

    Funny that Bergoglio who seemingly IS a Latin has Magog in his name, while Putin who seemingly is of Magog tribes, has Latin in his name.

  • 3) 2/3 of 1000 is either 666 or 667. 1/3 is 333. And 333 adds up better with 667 to 1000.

    On the other hand, 0.666 is only the good way of writing 2/3 if

    • a) you decide on decimals
    • b) you limit them to 3 decimals.


    Also, these decimals are usually not pronounced 6-hundred 6-ty 6.

    As to Gilgamesh being Nimrod, 2/3 "god" is perhaps less distinctive as a clue than Nimrod Ben Kush = 666 in Hebrew letters.

  • 4) If Gematria had been bad, it would have been condemned.

    Epistle of St Barnabas and Jews had a dispute of what it was meant when Abraham won a victory through 318 of his men.

    318 =
    300 = T = Cross
    18 = IH = IHCOYC

    318 = Eliezer.

    BOTH readings support Catholicism. It is both about the Cross of Christ and in some degree about the Papacy - and St Peter was to Christ what Eliezer was to Abraham.

    ALSO, I am not arbitrarily ASSIGNING numeric values to letters.

    I take it, it must be a conventional system.

    Greek and Hebrew letters served as numerals in normal mathematics with these two peoples.

    ASCII-Code is in use in EVERY Computer over the world right now.


1 comment:

Hans Georg Lundahl said...

Was presumably wrong about ö.

Looked it up.

678
082
596
067
663 T[ürkiye]C[umhurbaşkanı]ERDOGAN

678
082
596
080
676 P[resident of ]T[urkey]ERDOGAN

678
082
596
084
512
080
592 P[resident]ERDOGAN

R. T. Erdogan = 1026

R. T. Erdoğan = 1026 - g + ğ = 1210

1026
0071
0955
0032
0923
0287
1210

Still not a very suspect value.