Thursday, December 3, 2015

... on Religion, Brain Damage, Magic in Entertainment Literature of Fantasy Genre

Video commented on:
Why Religion causes brain damage
WakeupfromReligion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AJU49PpHqo


My first comment:
3:51 Thought patterns may indeed cause changes of the brain.

However, how do you argue religion, and especially all of them are causing the wrong ones from neurological perspective?

That study?

Gundam Z
+Hans-Georg Lundahl i know religious fanatics, both Muslim and christian ones. and i tell you sometimes you just get the feeling that the religion is messing up their minds. an example is i know someone who refused to allow her kids watch harry porter bcos she claims it's demonic and a work of satan.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
My dear, I would not want my own children to watch Harry Potter.

If "in book" the magic is a natural though rare talent, the way it is studied is very close to how magic is studied in the real world (excepting farce, like riding on owls or playing quidditch) and that study is indeed demonic.

By contrast, I would like my children, once I shall have such, to read Lord of the Rings and the Narnia Chronicles.

As to the Puritans who claim THAT is satanic (when no good character is tudying magic anywhere in the books, and the study of magic is stamped as evil in more than one place in them), I think they are wrong.

About as wrong and about as Puritan as the person on the video who thinks religion messes up the brain of people.

Puritanism can exist without religion, and it is rather morals than brains that it messes up.

TheO c casionalAtheist
+Hans-Georg Lundahl Since magic and religion are both man-made fantasies, how can you say the study of magic is "demonic"?

In the Lord of the Rings, while no good character is depicted as "studying magic", Gandalf is a practitioner of magic. Why do you have a problem with the study but not the practice? It seems to be a distinction without a difference.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
"Since magic and religion are both man-made fantasies, how can you say the study of magic is "demonic"?"

Because they aren't. Man made fantasies, that is. Even a false religion is not totally man made, it is usually at least partly demonic.

"In the Lord of the Rings, while no good character is depicted as "studying magic", Gandalf is a practitioner of magic."

Not in the same sense, since he is an angelic being and was given the powers at his creation, unlike a man who studies to get them.

"Why do you have a problem with the study but not the practice?"

I have a problem with any MAN practising (look how Gollum ended up just by using a ring, look at Angmar the Witchking), but not with a real angel like St Raphael or a fictional one like Gandalf having per se "magic" powers and taking a human form (Tolkien overdid the "incarnation" part of him and Sauron as "incarnate" angelic beings).

TheO c casionalAtheist
+Hans-Georg Lundahl You are presuming that demons exist.

If birthright is your deciding line, then you should have no problem with Harry Potter. The wizards and witches, went to Hogwarts to learn how to control their inborn magic. No muggles were allowed to study there.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
"You are presuming that demons exist."

A man who presumes opposite is no Christian.

"If birthright is your deciding line, then you should have no problem with Harry Potter."

Angelic beings are not BORN.

"The wizards and witches, went to Hogwarts to learn how to control their inborn magic. No muggles were allowed to study there."

  • 1) The distinction between "wizards/witches" and "muggles" being one between people all the same actually born like human babies, this is not the same as the "non-muggles" being angels AND it endorses a kind of superstitious differentiation between people (much like New Age concepts, say of Indigo Children) AND it is a false explanation on how some people get magic powers, the real one being demons;

  • 2) Angels never had to study for using their in-created powers, they were created adults, like Adam and Eve. If any angel needed to study anything, it is presumably fallen angels who study their victims and their personalities before choosing approach.


TheO c casionalAtheist
+Hans-Georg Lundahl Aren't you a bit old for fairytales?

Adam and Eve never existed, nor do angels. A man who presumes demons do not exist is called a "grown-up".

There's no "god", no heaven, nor hell. Here I thought you were arguing the abstract, but you really believe in this bullshit?!? LMAO

LOL LOOK OUT, DEMON BEHIND YOU! LOLOLOL

Hans-Georg Lundahl
"Aren't you a bit old for fairytales?"

Lucy Barfield, when The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe came out, was probably so. Author predicted she would be even older and old enough to read fairy tales again. Which I think happened.

"Adam and Eve never existed, nor do angels."

Atheist claptrap.

"A man who presumes demons do not exist is called a 'grown-up'."

More like ignorant. Your definition of "grown-up" makes it a synonym of Atheist. Worse, since it implies that the Atheist was not such when a child, it implies Apostate.

Are you an Apostate or are you a childhood believer in Atheism?

In the latter case, you should know better than claiming to have been a Christian when a child.

"There's no "god", no heaven, nor hell. Here I thought you were arguing the abstract, but you really believe in this bullshit?!? LMAO"

Enjoy your laugh.

"LOL LOOK OUT, DEMON BEHIND YOU! LOLOLOL"

I actually do, when I am confronted with obvious temptations against Christian virtues. Or should be doing it.

However, not by looking over the shoulder.

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